Exactly how you are scammed with fake tongkat ali (2013)Most tongkat ali buyers are victims of scams. They are sold kitchen lab concoctions that originate in China and are distributed by Western Internet traders serving the bodybuilding and sexual enhancement market segments. If consumers are repeat buyers from the same website, they are often confronted with changed products when buying the second time. This is sound proof that they were scammed twice.
In the email reply, I explain why.
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From: Serge Kreutz
Both products you bought anyway were most likely not tongkat ali at all. And if ever there was any tongkat ali in one of them, I am totally, absolutely, 100 percent sure that it was not 1:200 extract. Maybe there was some tongkat ali root powder, but most probably not even that.
There are many different compounds being sold as tongkat ali. Most come from China. Many of these compounds are laced with bootleg pharmaceuticals. So they may even have an effect, but definitely are detrimental to a userís health. These bootleg pharmaceuticals are never pharmaceutical grade, and often not even reagent grade. They are the output of chemistry amateurs, just like street drugs.
These dangerous chemistry amateurs, usually Chinese, sell to Western distributors who normally are not aware of the fact that what is sold to them is not tongkat ali but anything but.
The problem is that the distributor you bought from looks for the cheapest wholesale tongkat ali, just as you look for the cheapest retail tongkat ali. The distributor does not check anything, and retail buyers don't.
The Western distributor believes itís tongkat ali because the Chinese supplier says it's tongkat ali, just as you believe it's tongkat ali because the Western distributor says it is, based on what their source says.
The scam works because of typical Western gullibility. The Chinese overall are just stunned by the fact that Westerners believe just anything they are told. This has always been like that, and has been beautifully related by James Michener in novels like Hawaii.
These Chinese chemistry amateurs put all kinds of shit into the mixtures sold as tongkat ali extract, like Andriol oral testosterone analogues, sildenafil analogues, caffeine, yohimbine, God knows what. Yes, this shit often has a physiological effect, but is not what you wanted, namely tongkat ali 1:200 extract.
The Chinese suppliers of such shit typically stay in business only a few months, until, for whatever reason, they feel the heat from law enforcement, or just get cold feet. Or maybe they made enough money to buy a car imported from Europe, as that was what they started the scam for in the first place (Chinese products have a very low reputation in China, and nowhere in the world are tongkat ali buyers as careful as are the Chinese).
Furthermore, the Chinese chemistry amateurs often run the scam only for a few months because sooner or later, on somebody, the shit they sell as tongkat ali would not only have an effect somehow, but too much of it. A fatal effect.
When one Chinese source stops selling, the Western distributors, like the one you bought from, will have to find another one for something sold as tongkat ali. As usual, the Western distributors only look for the cheapest price, so they buy other Chinese shit sold as tongkat ali. It's always something very different, as I know from many mails sent to me by people who received two totally unlike products from the same Western distributor, sold as the same "tongkat ali extract" with the same label on the bottle or packaging. Again, the new product from the low-price Western distributor could be anything. But one thing it surely ainít: tongkat ali 1:200 extract.
Tongkat ali or cheap shit
Genuine tongkat ali extract is a wonderful enrichment of anybody's health and life.
By Serge Kreutz (2003)
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It's proven to help in preventing cancer, it lowers blood pressure (and thereby extends a person's life span), it works against obesity in women and men (and has even been patented for this), it gives men a more athletic appearance (proven in a scientific study with real people), and it makes for a better life overall because it improves libido and sexual pleasure ... and all of this without side effects worth mentioning.
With all these pluses, practically everybody has a good reason to add tongkat ali extract to one's daily diet. And actually, in Malaysia, the country that once had forests full of tongkat ali trees (all eaten up), most people indeed use tongkat ali every day. If one checks at a Carrefour or Tesco in Malaysia, one will notice that there are more brands of coffee on sale that do contain tongkat ali than there are coffees without. In Malaysia, even Nestle sells Nescafe with tongkat ali.
But tongkat ali has now become scarce. In Malaysia it's meanwhile a protected plant, specifically guarded by forest rangers. In Thailand, tongkat ali root powder, gram by gram, is more expensive than Viagra and weighted on gold scales. The only country where there still is some stock in the wild is Indonesia.
It is therefore not surprising (but nevertheless disappointing) that in order to reduce product costs, many non-Indonesian distributors stretch their alleged tongkat ali extracts with all kinds of cellulose fillers. And to make sure their cheap raw materials have an effect at all, they may add some sildenafil analogues that can be bought at low prices from dealers of chemical raw products. You're a fool if you consume such junk that isn't even licensed as safe in pets. You won't know whether in three years time, you get a brain tumor or liver cancer (more likely) from it. But even if you could know, it would not be much use because your sources will not take any responsibility anyway.
There are two rules that you have to observe when buying tongkat ali:
Rule ONE is to buy something that is a licensed product. A product that has been registered with the health department of a country. It's your health, and ultimately your life, that you are gambling with.
Rule TWO is to buy something from a proper source. From a company that exists in the real world, not just on the Internet. NEVER buy herbal supplements from an Internet spam site. It doesn't mean that you should not order over the Internet. But look at the website from where you order. Spam sites make unsound promises such as a full-money back guarantee. Span sites also typically make outlandish claims. And look at the credentials on their site. Are they genuine? Do the photos on their site prove that the company really exists, or are the photos just stolen on the Internet? Everybody nowadays can do a Google Image search for some impressive laboratory photos, and some glossy pictures of happy elderly couples or muscle-packed athletes. Such photos prove nothing.
And don't fall for lower prices. You may get what you pay for: cheap
shit instead of genuine tongkat ali extract.